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$2/$3 - Turn bet versus good reg in a 3! preflop pot

PrimoVictorPrimoVictor Posts: 59Subscriber
edited October 2018 in NLHE Strategy Discussion
Hello Lords and Lasses of the felt,

$2/$3 NLHE at Seven Mile Casino in San Diego CA

Effective stack size is $435

Hero ($435) on BTN with T T - I have been playing for four hours and extremely card dead all night. My image is very tight due to this.
V1 short stack old Asian happy go lucky man. Raises any pair preflop(Has shown 66 after raising with no calls from UTG). Starts hand with $52.
V2 active good reg, usually plays in $5/5 at my casino.

V1 from UTG raises to $12, V2 calls, Hero raises to $40, V1 shoves for $52 total, V2 calls, and Hero not permitted to reraise calls. The reason for the post and questions is because V2 understands I cannot reraise and can call with any two cards.

($156) Flop: J :s: T :s: 7 - V1 is all-in already - V2 checks, Hero bets $60, and V2 calls.

($276) Turn: J :s: T :s: 7 4 - V2 checks, Hero bets $??????

QUESTION is how much is the right sizing? I went back and forth after the fact. Still unsure as V2 can have so many hands that connect with that flop.
I bet $145, V2 folded/showed K J, V1 showed 99, and river was the 3


  • FuzzypupFuzzypup Posts: 2,577Subscriber
    Since this is a 3g pot more likely our V2 is holding paint in his hand. I think your bet is appropriate targeting Ice and fake pricing FDs
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  • kaboojiekaboojie Posts: 518Subscriber
    edited October 2018
    I wouldnt normally suggest this, but I might 3! min raise here. That allows V1 to shove and keep our option to raise open. Now we have the option to iso raise and get V2 to fold preflop.

    I would bet turn 175ish. Board is pretty wet. We have to charge draws.
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  • CycleVCycleV Posts: 1,196Subscriber
    Even a raise to 30 pre keeps the door open.

    Sizing was fine.
    Thanked by 1PrimoVictor
  • Bart HansonBart Hanson Posts: 6,115Administrator, LeadPro
    I wouldn't bet too large something like $75-$100. You could even make the "same bet" as it looks very weak and definitely will induce peels from hands like AQ etc. Players at these levels seldom check overpairs in this spot, and unless you are being coolered by JJ, I don't expect him to show up with KK-AA if ever, since he could 4 bet you with the dead $$ in there. And if he has those hands and you bet small he might raise on the turn or check call lead river. You are trying to get peeled by a hand like QJ, AQ, AK (if it didn't reraise), 99, AT, 88.
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  • SonnySonny Posts: 390Subscriber
    edited October 2018
    I think it looks like a well played hand, and you probably got as much value as you could. No matter what your 3 bet sizing pre, the fact that you did 3 bet pre and are now still betting with someone all in for the main takes away almost all your bluffs if you even have any here.
    No matter what you bet you look strong betting into the side pot. It probably looks more like you have Aces or Kings rather than a set. If the opponent you are playing the sidepot for is good I think you got all you could off of KJ for top pair.
    Now the side pot is only $120 on the turn so maybe I could get behind a sizing that treats the side pot like the main pot? Something like $75? If hes on the nut draw though that would be giving him a decent price unfortunately. I also like Barts sugestion of $100.
    But again, out opponent also has to beat the guy all in, so I don't think many bets are being called here unless he is on a draw and even then might just fold to a turn bet. A even if he has the nut draw, a good player knows they will only be getting the right price if you bet very small.
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