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1/2 good bluff or spew

SUYAPASUYAPA Posts: 87Subscriber
edited June 2018 in NLHE Strategy Discussion
All regs and only one recreational player. So pretty bad table.
Villain 350€ (recreational player). Likes to see a lot of flops with trash hands but can also fold when facing aggression. He is sitting on the table for 2 hours and lost two 300€ buy-ins.

CO had around 700€ and folded a lot to 3bets. He got 3bet like 7 times, only called once and insta gave up otf after a cbet.

Hero tight image. Won all hands without SD. Only 3b twice while sitting at the table. Stack around 600€

Hj limps, co raises to 12€, villain calls in sb, hero in bb 3b with 7 6 to 53€, hj and co fold, villain looks like he wants to fold but calls.

Flop (121€) A 8 3
Villain check, hero 70€, V calls

Turn (263€) A 8 3 Q :s:
Villain check, hero shoves

Should i give up ott?


  • JLBJJLBJ Posts: 172Subscriber
    Yes, you should give up. If we get called, we have no equity at all, and turn didn’t change anything and could have strengthened his hand.

    I also don’t like the light 3b from the BB in a 1-2 game, but at least everyone was somewhat deep.
  • SUYAPASUYAPA Posts: 87Subscriber
    edited June 2018
    Sorry it was first an1/2 that was changed after everyone agreed to an uncapped 1/3. So this hand is at 1/3. But i think it doesnt change much
  • SUYAPASUYAPA Posts: 87Subscriber
    edited June 2018
    I thought it might be a good spot to resteal given that co folded a lot to 3bets and to mix in some 3bet bluffs with SC. I was happy to take it down pre.

    Given that villain wanted to fold pre it was obvious that he has a trash hand again. I sized up otf to have the opportunity to shove turn for a ~psb.
    At first i wanted to give up ott but i thought i can get him off a fd or weak ace by shoving.
  • JLBJJLBJ Posts: 172Subscriber
    I wouldn’t want to keep playing for stacks with no equity all on the hope that a bad player will fold after flopping an ace or a flush draw (and you still lose to naked flush draws with 7-high).

    The players are bad. There will be many spots to get their money when they have little to no equity. Light 3-betting and huge multi-street bluffs should be used very, very rarely at these stakes.
    Thanked by 1CycleV
  • stayinschoolstayinschool Posts: 2,969Subscriber
    Don't like the no equity bluff here. Gotta pick a better hand
  • CycleVCycleV Posts: 1,196Subscriber
    The squeeze I can get behind, the cbet is obvious, at this point it didn't work out so time to move on.
  • SUYAPASUYAPA Posts: 87Subscriber
    Ya should give up ott. There are better spots to get his money.
    The guy called me with Q 5
  • Fletch23Fletch23 Posts: 115Subscriber
    I think a squeeze is much better if you’re going to have position on both players. And if you’re going to do it OOP, you should probably raise more.

    As played, it’s worth a shot on the flop, then give up.

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