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Preflop 3! Sizing Multiway With Whales

PiggyPiggy Posts: 172Subscriber
1-3 Local casino on Sunday night. The poker room is pretty quiet for a weekend, so only a single 2-5 game has been running instead of the usual 2 or 3 tables. Table is loose and splashy (routine double straddled) because 3 huge shooters from 2-5 / 5-T are at 1-3 waiting for a 2-5 which might or might not open.

Huge whale opens $10 UTG and gets 5 calls behind: a nit/OMC, a MAWW, a loose-passive, and 2 other huge whales (all in that order). UTG is full stacked and so is everyone else except the nit and one of the whales to our right who are both 250BB deep. We look down at AKo in the BB.

Hero is a mid 30s asian, has been playing tight since sitting down an hour prior but the table is probably not paying attention.

How much are we raising this? If we make it too small, the entire table will call and we will have a bloated pot OOP with a huge field. If we make it big to try and thin the field, the pot will still be enormous and we might get handcuffed to the pot OOP when we whiff. What to do here?


  • DrSpaceDrSpace Posts: 716Subscriber
    What your stack ?
  • PiggyPiggy Posts: 172Subscriber
    We’re starting the hand with $350 (the max buy in). The nit and one of the whales cover.
  • ohsnapzbrahohsnapzbrah Posts: 632Subscriber
    The pot is $60 already. Even if we just call, we're going to be fairly committed if we flop a pair due to having an SPR of 5. I would just make it $100. A normal-ish size would be 4x + each caller, so 4(10) + 5(10) = $90. $100 is normal-ish enough. And it sets up perfectly for when we get a caller, as we'll have just 1 PSB left.

    I know we don't like not flopping a pair when we get a caller, but we still have nut nothing along with an "uncapped" range. We can rep AA/KK/QQ on a lot of boards that shouldn't connect with the callers either; 234, TT5, 553, etc. Even a flop like Q64 we can cbet on and get a decent amount of folds. We should really only be worried when we see flops like JT9/QJx/876, where the preflop caller is now going to have a slight advantage and not as afraid with middling pocket pairs and suited connectors. And when we do flop a pair when we 3bet, we should just never fold.
  • PiggyPiggy Posts: 172Subscriber
    I ended up raising to 85 and got 5 callers and was first to act in the BB. Open shoved blind 265 into 510 and everyone folded on a A74r board.
  • neverlearn2neverlearn2 Posts: 2,862Subscriber
    if its a whale id go higher than I would normally go. Maybe 100 here? looks like a steal too with these m,any callers and your position. very nice spot to make a move.
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